# what is the need of page validation if we have property validation

**URL:** <https://forums.pega.com/t/what-is-the-need-of-page-validation-if-we-have-property-validation/5587>\
**Category:** User Experience\
**Tags:** user-experience, case-management, pega-platform\
**Created:** [December 11, 2023, 1:13pm UTC](https://forums.pega.com/t/what-is-the-need-of-page-validation-if-we-have-property-validation/5587 "2023-12-11T13:13:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![ramun16915856](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/eada6e/32.png) [@ramun16915856](https://forums.pega.com/u/ramun16915856)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2023, 1:13pm UTC](https://forums.pega.com/t/what-is-the-need-of-page-validation-if-we-have-property-validation/5587/1 "2023-12-11T13:13:45Z")

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Hi,

In which scenario do we use page validation, why can’t use the property validation for this case?

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**Author:** ![Bhumireddy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/pega/user_avatar/forums.pega.com/bhumireddy/32/23248_2.png) [@Bhumireddy](https://forums.pega.com/u/Bhumireddy)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2023, 1:47pm UTC](https://forums.pega.com/t/what-is-the-need-of-page-validation-if-we-have-property-validation/5587/2 "2023-12-11T13:47:18Z")

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Hi @ramun16915856,

Could you please go through below article,

[https://support.pega.com/question/what-use-page-validate-instead-use-validate](https://support.pega.com/question/what-use-page-validate-instead-use-validate)

> **[Pegasystems Documentation](https://docs.pega.com/bundle/platform/page/platform/reference/methods/page-validate.html)**

> **[Pegasystems Documentation](https://docs.pega.com/bundle/archive/page/archive/topics/archive-directory.html)**

**Thanks,**

**Ashok**

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**Author:** ![AbikashSharma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/6bbea6/32.png) [@AbikashSharma](https://forums.pega.com/u/AbikashSharma)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2023, 2:50pm UTC](https://forums.pega.com/t/what-is-the-need-of-page-validation-if-we-have-property-validation/5587/3 "2023-12-11T14:50:41Z")

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@ramun16915856 All the validations are not property related. Lets say you called a service to fetch some value. The result is loaded on an independent top level page or a data page. If there any service error, you want to show the same message on your page also. So, you need to set a page message